Training ain’t just spanking

submitted by: Big Daddy

We’ve talked a lot about discipline and how we reach the ultimate goal of obedience over the last few weeks. I have been able to share my views and my methods on discipline with anyone who would read them even though they are a little over the top for some, and disagreeing with Big Daddy seems to be a fun activity here. Discipline is a huge part of training our children, but we as mom and dad do so much more for the kids than obedience training and I think that if you’re not careful, you will miss out on why we are doing it in the first place. The spiritual growth of the kids is first and foremost. If we have perfectly obedient kids that are on the road to hell, then what was the point? If, after 18 years of training, they want nothing to do with your faith or God at all, then all was in vain. You see, we are raising the next generation of Christians; not businessmen, not rich entrepreneurs, but Christian leaders. Now if you’re not a Christian, you obviously are not doing this; but I am, so that’s my goal. So how do you do this? You drag them to church with you 3 times a week so they get plenty of God, right? Only if you want to see how fast they can run at age 18. Deuteronomy Chapter 11 is the preferred method of the Taylor home.

18 Therefore shall you lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul; and you shall bind them for a sign on your hand, and they shall be for symbols between your eyes.
19 You shall teach them your children, talking of them, when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up.
20 You shall write them on the door-posts of your house, and on your gates;
21 that your days may be multiplied, and the days of your children, in the land which Yahweh swore to your fathers to give them, as the days of the heavens above the earth.

You should make it a part of your life, not a Sunday morning routine. Right now my family is trying to memorize Matthew 5-7, its around 100 verses, and I hate to admit, but my 7 year old son has the first 20 down, and I’m still struggling through 1-10. But we have these verses written on our walls in the kitchen and in the living room. Its always there, reminding us all who we are. My 3 year old has a good bit memorized too. Right now Gavin is listening to the new testament on CD before he goes to bed. He’s going through 1 disk a night. Its covered in 15 CD’s. That means he will have completed the entire new testament in 2 weeks! Most adults could take up to 6 months to read it. We have instilled a love for God in him that we continuously feed and nurture. And we are doing the same with the girls. As Christians, we are called to be evangelists, but what right do we have teaching others about God, if we neglect to win our own kids.

I could go on about that for a while, but I’ll move on. We also train our kids in purity. My wife just bought Avery (the 3 yr old) a book called “The Princess and the Kiss”. It about a princess that is given a special gift from God when she is born, her first kiss. She is to hold on to that kiss until she finds the right man to marry and give it to him. In this world of free love and sex on demand, we have to protect our children from falling into this trap. And using my very large gun collection will unfortunately not do the job. The values need to be ingrained in their heart from a very early age. If you wait until it’s applicable, you better get out the guns. We should also train our boys to be men, not just older boys. They should be taught to treat women the same way we expect our daughters to be treated. Respect and reverence should be shown to a wife and your example will teach more than your words on that one. And for us, getting rid of the TV was necessary to show them that we weren’t finding joy in the things we were teaching them not to do. Sex is one of the best parts of marriage and I don’t want to see that ruined for them by not equipping them with the tools necessary to fight the temptation that is sure to come. That is why we homeschool, because the kids that they see will give them those temptations long before they are ready to combat them.

Kids are an amazing gift, but to get the most out of them, you have to be willing to give a lot of self. They will know if your boat, job, cars or anything else is more important than them, and you will know too as soon as they can make their own decisions and sometimes before that. So enjoy them, train them, and be a Godly example to them. You owe it to them. Don’t let them down. And remember, they WILL be trained in life, but who will do it? You or the boy down the street with a Mohawk and 16 rings in his head?

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9 responses to 'Training ain’t just spanking'
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SteveL
March 27, 2006 at 1:20 am

Big Daddy,

You bring up many excellent points.  We live in a culture that tells us kids should be happy above all else.  And while that is always a nice goal, I’m convinced that it’s more important that our children are holy, not just happy.  Sometimes being holy means avoiding the values of this world.

You last point is also important.  Our children will be trained, the only question is by whom?  I applaud you and your wife for making the training of your children a top priority.

jason berggren
March 27, 2006 at 7:49 am

Great post. I totally agree. We do many similar things with our boys because having them love God is our first priority.


March 27, 2006 at 11:36 am

Why is it that the kid with the mohawk is any less of a good person than you?

Why do you seem to be preaching intolerance and fear of people that are different from you?

Is it possible that your children could grow up to be afraid of the world and try to hurt other people rather than learn to live alongside them as human beings?

Your approach to teaching your children sounds to me like an indoctrination in fear and intolerance, which leads to ignorance and hatred, which is a sure path to conflict and war, not peace.

Ryan
March 27, 2006 at 12:08 pm

Good thoughts. 

I like how you are intentional about raising your kids and instilling in them a love for God and teaching them the ways of Jesus.  I hope they capture from you and you wife all the things they are supposed to. 

Bottom line:  I think you are right, that if we don’t train kids, then someone will. 

A last point:  I understand what you are saying in contrasting the parent with the boy with 16 rings and the example is relevant in a very proper context, but for the sake of conversation I want to say that sometimes the boy with 16 rings in his nose can truly teach us amazing things about life, even about what it means to live out the simple mission of Jesus.

Rob Fay
March 27, 2006 at 12:09 pm

What a huge responsibility to take parenting seriously.  And you’re right, not only should we concern ourselves with feeding, clothing, and sheltering our children, but bringing them up in the ways of faith.

What I struggle with most is the television piece.  I am addicted to television, so I would be hard-pressed to remove it entirely from our household.  However, as an active parent, we should at least seriously regulate its involvement in our children’s lives.

I remember a childhood of imagination and days spent outdoors, or even using empty plastic sodas bottles for entertainment.  Let’s spark our childrens’ minds by encouraging imaginative creativity and encouraging an innocence that is filled with a reliance on the things of God.

Big Daddy
March 27, 2006 at 9:17 pm

Thanks for the comments,
Rob, I understand your trouble with T.V., it’s been 3 years now that we’ve had no T.V., and I’m a football fanatic. I like my Broncos and from August to Febuary it is a struggle. What did it for us was not even what our kids were watching, it was what me and Mama were finding enjoyment with. It was pretty bad. We watched 2 hours of Friends and Will and Grace, laughed the whole time, and were then disgusted with ourselves because of it. So on a whim, it got unplugged. It was hard at first, and still is during football season, but it’s given me so much more time with my family, and thats better than the junk on the idiot box anyday. And my kids don’t miss it, and were all better off for it. Its just something else that makes our family stronger.
And I’m sure that ol’ spike may not be all that bad once you get to know him, but I was just trying to make a point, so for all of you with mohawks and 16 rings in your head, I’m sorry for judging you.

Lucky
March 30, 2006 at 12:46 pm

I hesitiate when told about home-schooling.  Our two kids are currently in a public elementary school, but only becuase it is ranked #2 in the state.  It will be the last public school they go to.

My concern with homeschooling is partially educational, and partially social.  Educationally, I don’t have a teaching degree and neither does my wife.  We also both work while the mother-in-law watches them for the three days that my wife works as an RN at the hospital.  I consider myslef a smart person--a military flight instructor that has taught hundreds of people how to fly high perofrmance jet aircraft--but I seriously doubt I or my wife has a better capability to teach them than a certified teacher.

The other issue I have with it is social.  I really don’t think that the television, or friends from school, will eradicate any teachings that our children recieve from our constant attention.  What is happening, however, is that they are developing social skills and an ability to interact with the world around them.  We spend time watching the television with our children and we have a great time doing it.  We obviously have to censor what we watch, but I don’t see it as a harmful activity or something that detracts from the quality of time we spend together.

Not having the children in the house with you 24/7, I think, is a good thing.  I strongly feel that going to extremes, in anything--be it religion or indulgence--is a bad thing.  My kids know the Lord’s prayer and others, but they also know the words to the songs they have to sing in the school spring play.

Big Daddy
March 30, 2006 at 9:44 pm

Whatever makes you feel better about your situation, well that’s fine with me, but you should know some facts about homeschooling and I share some with you.

The ACT college admission exam scores show homeschoolers consistently performing above the national average. In both 2002 and 2003, the national homeschool average was 22.5, while the national average was 20.8. And on the SAT, homeschoolers consistently score 75 points higher, on average. The average homeschool 8th grade student performs four grade levels above the national average (Rudner study). One in four homeschool students (24.5%) are enrolled one or more grades above age level. Students who have been home schooled their entire lives have the highest scholastic achievement. In every subject and at every grade level of the ITBS and TAP batteries, homeschool students scored significantly higher than their counterparts in public and private schools. So educationally, there is no comparison.

Now for the social aspect, public education trains a child to interact with their peers, kids their own age, where being at home gives kids much more opportunity to socialize with others outside their age bracket. Be it at the store, the library, church, and in our case , the gun shops, and the range, where my 7 year old carries on fluent and intelligent conversations with adults on a regular basis. In my line of work, I get helpers straight out of high school that could not carry on a mature conversation with an adult if their life depended on it, and they’re supposed to be adults.

Everyone has a right to disagree with homeschooling, but know the facts first.

Thank you

Lucky
April 1, 2006 at 10:08 am

I have nothing against home schooling, so don’t think that I do.  I just don’t think that it is the be-al-end-all of raising children as those who do it claim that it is.

I find it hard to believe that the better stats are the result of home schooling.  What I do think that it is is a result fo parents being more directly involved with their children, as well as the quality of the school.  My wife and I do homework with our kids every night.  We bought our house based on the school district.  We are very invloved in their education and social lives.

I think a comparison is being made that all public schools are the same, and that all students are the same and thats just not the case.  I think the reason homeschoolers do better is because they have constant involvement with their parents.  If there was a way to measure the quality of parental support in today’s kids then I think that your numbers would be different.

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